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Carbon emission and Global warming. My conversation with AI.
Power generation technology is predominantly thermal power worldwide. But the average conversion of thermal energy is only 40% at max. The balance heat is dissipated into the atmosphere in some form. Naturally, the ocean is a significant sink for both heat and CO2.
You've highlighted two critical points regarding global power generation: the dominance of thermal power and its inherent inefficiencies, leading to significant waste heat and CO2 emissions, with the ocean acting as a major sink for both. Let's break down these points further:
1. Dominance of Thermal Power and Its Inefficiencies:
• Prevalence: Indeed, a large percentage of the world's electricity still comes from thermal power plants, which include those burning fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, oil) and nuclear power plants. Even some renewable sources like concentrated solar power (CSP) use a thermal cycle.
• Thermal-to-Electric Conversion Efficiency: Your figure of 40% (at max) for thermal energy conversion is quite accurate for modern, well-maintained conventional thermal power plants. This efficiency is governed by the Carnot cycle, which states that the maximum theoretical efficiency of a heat engine depends on the temperature difference between the hot source and the cold sink. In practice, real-world factors like friction, heat losses, and auxiliary power consumption further reduce this.
• "Waste Heat": The remaining 60% (or more) of the energy that isn't converted into electricity is indeed "waste heat." This heat is typically rejected to the environment through cooling towers or directly into bodies of water (rivers, lakes, oceans). While it's called "waste," it's a fundamental consequence of thermodynamics; you can't convert all heat energy into practical work.
• Environmental Impact of Waste Heat: This rejected heat can cause "thermal pollution" in water bodies, affecting aquatic ecosystems by reducing oxygen levels and altering species distribution. When released into the atmosphere, it contributes to local heating and can influence microclimates.
2. The Ocean as a Major Sink for Heat and CO2:
• Heat Sink: The ocean is a colossal heat sink. It has a very high specific heat capacity, meaning it can absorb a large amount of heat with only a relatively small increase in its temperature. This makes it an ideal recipient for waste heat from coastal power plants. However, the cumulative effect of large-scale heat discharge can still have localized impacts. On a global scale, the ocean absorbs a vast amount of atmospheric heat, a significant contributor to climate change.
• CO2 Sink: The ocean is also a critical sink for atmospheric carbon dioxide. CO2 dissolves in seawater, forming carbonic acid, bicarbonates, and carbonates. This process, known as the "ocean carbon pump," plays a crucial role in regulating Earth's climate by removing CO2 from the atmosphere.
• Consequences of Ocean Absorption:
o Ocean Warming: The absorption of excess heat leads to ocean warming, contributing to sea-level rise (through thermal expansion) and impacting marine ecosystems (e.g., coral bleaching, changes in species migration patterns).
o Ocean Acidification: The absorption of excess CO2 leads to ocean acidification, which is a decrease in the ocean's pH. This poses a severe threat to marine organisms, particularly those that build shells or skeletons from calcium carbonate (e.g., corals, shellfish), as it makes it harder for them to form and maintain their structures.
Moving Forward:
Your observations underscore the urgent need for a transition towards more sustainable power generation technologies. This includes:
• Increasing Efficiency: While challenging, continuous efforts are made to improve the efficiency of thermal power plants through technologies like combined cycles (using both gas and steam turbines) and advanced materials.
• Utilizing Waste Heat: Technologies for "waste heat recovery" or "cogeneration" (combined heat and power - CHP) aim to use the rejected heat for industrial processes, district heating, or other applications, thereby improving overall energy efficiency.
• Investing in Renewables: Accelerating the deployment of renewable energy sources like solar photovoltaics, wind power, hydropower, and geothermal energy, which have significantly lower or no direct CO2 emissions and generally less waste heat dissipation.
• Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS): For existing fossil fuel plants, CCS technologies aim to capture CO2 emissions before they enter the atmosphere and store them underground in geological formations. However, this technology is still costly and faces significant challenges.
Understanding these interconnected issues is fundamental to addressing the global energy challenge and mitigating climate change.
What is the total power generation worldwide using thermal power that includes nuclear and solar thermal?
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Based on data for 2023, the global electricity generation was approximately 29,471 TWh (Terawatt-hours).
Here's a breakdown of the sources that fall under "thermal power" in your definition, including nuclear and solar thermal:
• Fossil Fuels (predominantly thermal): Fossil fuels (coal, natural gas, and oil) still dominate global electricity generation. In 2023, they accounted for approximately 61% of global electricity production.
o Coal: The single largest fuel, making up 35% (10,434 TWh) of global generation.
o Gas: Produced 23% (6,634 TWh) of global generation.
o Other fossil generation: Made up 2.7% (786 TWh).
• Nuclear Power: Nuclear power is a significant thermal source, accounting for approximately 10% of global electricity generation in 2022 (although some sources suggest a slight decline in 2023 due to fewer new plants and output adjustments).
• Solar Thermal (Concentrated Solar Power - CSP): While solar PV (photovoltaic) is a direct conversion of sunlight to electricity, solar thermal (CSP) systems use mirrors to concentrate sunlight to heat a fluid, which then drives a turbine to generate electricity, making it a thermal power source. Its contribution to global electricity generation is currently relatively small compared to other sources. In 2023, "Electricity and heat generation growth in geothermal, concentrated solar power (CSP) and ocean technologies mostly stalled in 2023 due to limited capacity additions."
To calculate the approximate total thermal power generation:
If we take the 2023 global electricity demand as 29,471 TWh:
• Fossil Fuels: 0.61×29,471 TWh≈18,000 TWh (approximation based on 61% share)
• Nuclear: Roughly 0.10×29,471 TWh≈2,947 TWh (approximation based on 10% share, noting slight variations for 2023).
• Solar Thermal (CSP): This is a much smaller component within "other renewables." While precise global figures for CSP alone in 2023 are harder to isolate from general "other renewables" categories, its contribution is likely in the tens to low hundreds of TWhs, a fraction of the total.
Therefore, the vast majority of global thermal power generation comes from fossil fuels and nuclear power. Adding these approximations:
Total Thermal Power≈Fossil Fuels + Nuclear + Solar Thermal Total Thermal Power≈18,000 TWh + 2,947 TWh (small amount from CSP) Total Thermal Power≈around 21,000 TWh (approximately, acknowledging the small but present contribution of solar thermal and rounding).
In summary, thermal power (including fossil fuels, nuclear, and a small amount of solar thermal) still accounts for roughly 70-75% of global electricity generation. While renewables (wind, solar PV, hydro) are proliferating and reached 30% of global generation in 2023, the thermal dominance remains for now.
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What is waste heat worldwide absorbed by the sea?
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It's crucial to distinguish between the two primary sources of "waste heat" absorbed by the ocean:
1. Waste heat directly discharged from thermal power plants: This is localized thermal pollution.
2. Excess heat trapped in the Earth system due to anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions (global warming): This is a much larger, planet-wide phenomenon.
Let's address both:
1. Waste Heat Directly Discharged from Thermal Power Plants
Thermal power plants (fossil fuel, nuclear, and solar thermal) reject a significant portion of their energy as waste heat. For a conventional fossil-fueled plant, approximately 60% of the thermal energy is waste heat, and for nuclear plants, it's often higher, around 67%.
• Magnitude: While direct discharge statistics for worldwide thermal power plant waste heat explicitly absorbed by the sea are not readily aggregated into a single global number, we can infer its scale.
o A 1,000 megawatt (MWe) nuclear power plant operating at 33% efficiency can discharge around 6.9 billion BTUs of waste heat per hour.
o A 1,000 MWe coal-fired plant at 40% efficiency discharges about 5.1 billion BTUs per hour.
o Plants using "once-through cooling" (where water is directly drawn from and discharged back into a body of water) discharge this heat directly. A single 1000 MWe nuclear power plant using once-through cooling requires about 50 m³/sec of water for cooling.
o Many power plants, especially inland, use cooling towers to dissipate heat into the atmosphere, so not all waste heat goes into the ocean directly.
• Impact: This direct thermal discharge can have significant localized impacts on marine ecosystems, altering water temperatures, dissolved oxygen levels, and affecting marine life. However, compared to the vast heat capacity of the global ocean, this direct discharge from power plants is a relatively small component of the overall heat absorbed by the sea on a planetary scale.
2. Excess Heat from Global Warming Absorbed by the Ocean
This is by far the most significant form of "waste heat" absorbed by the ocean. It's the consequence of increased greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which trap more of the sun's energy, and the sea then absorbs the vast majority of this excess heat.
• Magnitude: The ocean has absorbed over 90% of the excess heat trapped in the Earth's system due to human-caused global warming.
o This is an enormous amount of energy. In 2023, the oceans absorbed about 287 zettajoules (ZJ) of heat. To put this in perspective, this is equivalent to roughly eight Hiroshima atomic bombs detonating every second of every day into the ocean.
o Between 2005 and 2019, the upper 2000 meters of the ocean absorbed, on average, 2.5 million terawatt-hours of heat each year, which is nearly 15 times the world's total primary energy consumption in 2022.
o Since 1971, the ocean has absorbed a staggering amount of heat, with ocean heat content consistently increasing, and 2023 being the hottest on record.
• Impact: This massive absorption of heat by the ocean leads to:
o Ocean warming: Directly impacting marine ecosystems (e.g., coral bleaching, species migration, changes in ocean currents).
o Sea-level rise: Due to thermal expansion of water.
o Increased intensity of extreme weather events: Warmer oceans provide more energy for tropical storms and can influence weather patterns globally.
In summary:
While thermal power plants directly discharge waste heat into coastal waters (causing localized thermal pollution), the overwhelming majority of "waste heat" absorbed by the global ocean is the result of anthropogenic climate change, with the sea acting as a critical buffer by absorbing over 90% of the planet's excess heat.
What is anthropogenic heat in terms of percentage?
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It's important to clarify what "anthropogenic heat" refers to in the context of global warming, as there are two main interpretations, and their percentages are vastly different:
1. Direct Anthropogenic Heat Release (AHF): This refers to the heat generated directly by human activities, such as burning fossil fuels for energy (power plants, transportation, industry), heating buildings, operating machinery, etc. This is the "waste heat" we were discussing earlier.
2. Heat Trapped by Greenhouse Gas Emissions: This is a much larger effect, where greenhouse gases (such as CO2 and methane) released by human activities trap more of the sun's energy in the Earth's atmosphere, leading to a warming planet. Humans don't directly release the heat itself in this case; rather, humans change the atmospheric composition, which causes the Earth system to retain more heat.
Here's the breakdown of their percentages about global warming:
1. Direct Anthropogenic Heat Release (AHF):
• Percentage of Global Warming: Globally, the direct anthropogenic heat flux (AHF) is considered negligibly small compared to the radiative forcing from greenhouse gas emissions.
o Most studies estimate that AHF contributes around 1% or less of the total radiative forcing (the energy imbalance) caused by human activities.
o For example, in 2005, the globally averaged AHF was estimated at +0.028 W/m². In contrast, the forcing from greenhouse gases was much higher (e.g., 2.9 W/m² for greenhouse gases alone, or a net anthropogenic forcing around 1.6 W/m² when accounting for cooling aerosols). This means greenhouse warming is currently adding about 100 times more heat to our climate than direct waste heat.
• Local Impact: Although it has a small global presence, AHF can have a significant regional impact, particularly in urban and industrial areas. For instance, in some highly urbanized regions, AHF can be up to 40% of the local forcing from carbon dioxide. This contributes to urban heat island effects.
• Future Projections: Although currently minor globally, some research suggests that if global energy consumption continues to grow exponentially, AHF could become a more significant factor in the very long term (e.g., centuries from now). However, this would require extreme energy demand scenarios that are unlikely to occur by 2100.
2. Heat Trapped by Greenhouse Gas Emissions (The Dominant Cause of Global Warming):
• Percentage of Observed Warming: This is the critical number when discussing the cause of global warming. It is unequivocal that human activities, primarily through the emission of greenhouse gases, have been the dominant cause of the warming observed since the mid-20th century.
o The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) states that it is "extremely likely" (>95% probability) that human activities have been the dominant cause of warming since the 1950s.
o Many scientific analyses conclude that human activities are responsible for approximately 100% (and even sometimes slightly over 100% due to natural factors that would have caused a slight cooling) of the observed global warming since 1950. The subtle "over 100%" occurs because natural forcings (such as solar output changes and volcanic activity) would have, on average, contributed a slight cooling over the past half-century, meaning human activities have overcome that and caused all the observed warming.
In summary:
• Direct Anthropogenic Heat Release (AHF): Contributes a tiny percentage (around 1% or less) to overall global warming. It's a localized factor.
• Heat Trapped by Anthropogenic Greenhouse Gas Emissions: Is responsible for virtually 100% of the global warming observed since the mid-20th century. This is the primary driver of climate change.
When people discuss "anthropogenic heat" in the context of the climate crisis, they are almost always referring to the heat trapped by greenhouse gases, not the direct waste heat from human activities.
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Okay, let's look at "both" aspects of anthropogenic heat in terms of percentages, as you requested, ensuring we distinguish clearly between the two.
1. Direct Anthropogenic Heat Release (AHF) - The Waste Heat
This is the heat generated directly by human activities: power generation (as we discussed with thermal power plants), transportation, industrial processes, heating/cooling of buildings, metabolic heat from humans, etc. It's the byproduct of energy consumption.
• Percentage of Global Energy Imbalance / Warming: Globally, the direct anthropogenic heat release (AHF) contributes an extremely small percentage to the Earth's overall energy imbalance and the resultant global warming.
o Estimates generally put its contribution at less than 1% of the total radiative forcing (the energy imbalance) caused by human activities. Some studies suggest it's closer to 0.01% to 0.1% of the warming effect attributed to greenhouse gases.
o For example, suppose the net anthropogenic radiative forcing (due to greenhouse gases and aerosols) is about 2.72 W/m² (as per IPCC AR6, 2019 data). In that case, the global average direct AHF is often cited as being around 0.028 W/m².
$(0.028 \text{ W/m}^2 / 2.72 \text{ W/m}^2) \times 100\% \approx \textbf{1.03%}$ of the net anthropogenic forcing.
However, if compared solely to the warming effect of long-lived greenhouse gases (which is higher than the net forcing because aerosols have a cooling effect), the percentage would be even smaller. For example, if greenhouse gas forcing is 3.8 W/m², then $(0.028 \text{ W/m}^2 / 3.8 \text{ W/m}^2) \times 100\% \approx \textbf{0.74%}$.
• Key Takeaway for Direct AHF: While significant locally (contributing to urban heat island effects), its global contribution to climate change is negligible when compared to greenhouse gas effects.
2. Heat Trapped by Anthropogenic Greenhouse Gas Emissions - The Dominant Cause of Global Warming
This is the warming caused by human-emitted greenhouse gases (CO2, methane, N2O, etc.), which accumulate in the atmosphere and trap more outgoing longwave radiation (heat) that would otherwise escape to space. The "heat" isn't directly released; instead, it's the result of the atmosphere's increased heat-trapping capacity due to human emissions.
• Percentage of Observed Global Warming: Scientific consensus, as reflected by the IPCC, is overwhelmingly clear: human activities, predominantly through the emission of greenhouse gases, are responsible for virtually all of the global warming observed since the mid-20th century.
o Various studies and assessments conclude that human activities are responsible for approximately 100% of the observed warming from 1950 to the present.
o In some cases, the anthropogenic contribution can even be cited as slightly over 100% (e.g., 110% to 120%) because natural factors (like solar variability and volcanic aerosols) during this period would have, on average, contributed a slight cooling, meaning human-induced warming has overcome that natural cooling to produce the observed net warming.
o The ocean has absorbed over 90% of this excess heat trapped in the Earth system by these greenhouse gases.
Summary - "Both" Percentages
When considering "both" aspects of anthropogenic heat:
• Direct Anthropogenic Heat Release (waste heat from energy use): Contributes a tiny percentage, roughly 0.7% to 1.0% of the total human-caused radiative forcing. It's locally significant but globally insignificant for climate change.
• Heat Trapped due to Anthropogenic Greenhouse Gas Emissions: Accounts for ~100% of the observed global warming since the mid-20th century. This is the overwhelming driver of climate change.
It's vital to keep these two distinct mechanisms and their vastly different scales in mind when discussing "anthropogenic heat" and its role in climate change.
Irrespective of the distinction in theory, the reality is the warming of the globe.
You are correct. Regardless of the distinction in theoretical mechanisms, the undeniable reality is the global warming.
While it's essential for scientific accuracy to understand why the globe is warming (the dominant role of greenhouse gases versus the negligible global impact of direct waste heat), from a practical and experiential standpoint, what matters most is the observed warming and its consequences.
The Earth's average surface temperature is increasing, ocean heat content is rising rapidly, glaciers and ice sheets are melting, sea levels are rising, and extreme weather events are becoming more frequent and intense. These are all direct manifestations of the planet accumulating excess energy, predominantly due to human activities.
The scientific distinction between:
• Direct waste heat (like from power plants) is a localized factor and a very minor contributor to global warming.
• Greenhouse gases cause the vast majority of global warming by trapping outgoing heat.
...is crucial for understanding the root causes and designing effective mitigation strategies. However, for a homeowner experiencing more frequent heatwaves, a farmer facing prolonged droughts, or a coastal community dealing with rising sea levels, the source of the excess heat ultimately leads to the same concerning outcome: a warming world.
So, yes, the theoretical nuances are for the scientists and policymakers to dissect to formulate the most effective responses. But the "reality of the warming globe" is the overarching truth that impacts everyone.
Thank you.
You're welcome! I'm glad I could clarify the distinctions while also affirming the undeniable reality of global warming.
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What is sustainable aviation fuel and e-fuel and how sustainable are they? My conversation with AI.
What is sustainable fuel, and how can you say it is sustainable while carrying the same Carbon backbone?
Sustainable fuels are a class of fuels designed to significantly reduce net greenhouse gas emissions compared to traditional fossil fuels. While they may still have a "carbon backbone" (meaning they contain carbon and release CO2 when combusted), their sustainability lies in the carbon cycle and the source of the carbon.
Here's how it works:
What is a Sustainable Fuel?
Sustainable fuels are broadly categorized into two main types, both of which avoid extracting new fossil carbon from underground:
1. Biofuels: These are derived from biomass, which is organic matter from plants or animals.
o Examples: Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) made from used cooking oil, agricultural waste, forestry residues, or algae; biodiesel from vegetable oils or animal fats; ethanol from corn or sugarcane.
o Sustainability Mechanism: The key idea is that the carbon released when these fuels are burned was recently absorbed from the atmosphere by the plants during their growth through photosynthesis. This creates a closed-loop or biogenic carbon cycle. While CO2 is released, it's considered to be re-releasing carbon that was already part of the active carbon cycle, rather than adding "new" carbon from fossil reserves that have been sequestered for millions of years.
2. E-fuels (Electrofuels / Power-to-Liquids - PtL): These are synthetic fuels produced using renewable electricity, water, and captured carbon dioxide.
o Examples: E-kerosene (a type of SAF), e-diesel, e-methanol, e-ammonia.
o Sustainability Mechanism:
Renewable Energy: The electricity used for production (e.g., for electrolysis to produce hydrogen from water) must come from renewable sources like solar, wind, or hydropower.
Captured Carbon: The carbon dioxide used as a feedstock is either captured directly from the atmosphere (Direct Air Capture - DAC) or from biogenic sources (e.g., from industrial processes that already release CO2 from biomass). By removing CO2 from the atmosphere to create the fuel and then re-releasing it when the fuel is burned, it aims to achieve a circular carbon economy where no net new carbon is added to the atmosphere.
How can it be sustainable while maintaining the same carbon footprint?
The crucial distinction lies in the origin of the carbon and the overall lifecycle emissions:
• Fossil Fuels: Extracting and burning fossil fuels (coal, oil, natural gas) introduces geological carbon that has been stored underground for millions of years into the active atmospheric carbon cycle. This represents a net increase in CO2 in the atmosphere, contributing to global warming.
• Sustainable Fuels (Biofuels & E-fuels):
o Biofuels: The carbon in biofuels originates from the atmosphere (captured by plants). When the fuel is burned, this carbon returns to the atmosphere, and then new plants can absorb it again. If managed sustainably (e.g., avoiding deforestation, not competing with food crops, minimizing the impacts of land-use change), the net carbon emissions over the fuel's lifecycle can be significantly reduced or near neutral.
o E-fuels: The carbon in e-fuels is actively captured from the atmosphere or from biogenic sources (which themselves are part of the biogenic cycle). When the e-fuel is burned, that same captured carbon is released back into the atmosphere. The key is that the total amount of carbon in the atmosphere doesn't increase due to the combustion, because the carbon was already taken out of the atmosphere (or prevented from being released from a biogenic source) to make the fuel in the first place.
Important Considerations and Debates:
While the concept aims for sustainability, the "net-zero" or "carbon-neutral" claim for sustainable fuels often relies on a lifecycle assessment (LCA). This means considering all emissions from feedstock production (e.g., fertilizer for crops, energy for capturing CO2), processing, transport, and combustion.
• Land Use Change (for Biofuels): A significant debate surrounding biofuels centers on the impact of land use change. Suppose forests are cleared or land used for food production is converted to grow biofuel crops. In that case, it can lead to significant "carbon debt" (emissions from deforestation) and other environmental issues, potentially negating the sustainability benefits.
• Energy Intensity (for E-fuels): Producing e-fuels is very energy-intensive. Their sustainability hinges entirely on using genuinely renewable electricity throughout the entire production chain. If fossil fuels are used to generate electricity, the carbon savings are diminished or lost.
• Availability of Feedstocks: The scale-up of sustainable fuels faces challenges regarding the availability of sustainable feedstocks (e.g., waste materials, renewable energy for e-fuels).
In essence, while sustainable fuels still involve carbon and produce CO2 when burned, their sustainability is based on the principle of a circular carbon economy where the carbon is repeatedly cycled between the atmosphere and the fuel, or on using carbon that was recently removed from the atmosphere, rather than adding new carbon from ancient fossil reserves.
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The fundamental chemistry of Carbon and its contribution towards GHG and global warming remains the same, irrespective of the origin of Carbon, whether it is biological or synthetic.
You are correct in that fundamental chemical principle: the chemical properties of a CO2 molecule, and thus its ability to absorb infrared radiation and contribute to the greenhouse effect, remain the same regardless of whether the carbon atom within it originated from a fossil fuel, a plant, or was captured directly from the atmosphere.
CO2 is CO2. Its molecular structure and interaction with radiation don't change based on its history.
The crucial distinction, as highlighted in the previous explanation about sustainable fuels, lies in the carbon cycle and the net impact on atmospheric CO2 concentrations over time.
Here's why the origin does matter in the context of climate change:
• Fossil Carbon:
o Fossil fuels (coal, oil, natural gas) are formed from ancient organic matter that was sequestered underground over millions of years. This carbon was effectively removed from the active, fast carbon cycle for geological timescales.
o When we extract and burn these fossil fuels, we are introducing new carbon into the active atmospheric system that has not been part of that system for a very long time. This is a net addition of CO2 to the atmosphere.
o The natural carbon sinks (oceans, land) cannot absorb this massive, rapid influx of "old" carbon fast enough, leading to a continuous increase in atmospheric CO2 concentrations, which drives global warming.
• Biogenic Carbon (from Biofuels):
o Biogenic carbon originates from living organisms (plants, algae, etc.) that absorb CO2 from the atmosphere through photosynthesis as they grow. This carbon is part of the "fast" carbon cycle, meaning it cycles relatively quickly between the atmosphere, biosphere, and oceans.
o When a biofuel derived from recently grown biomass is burned, it releases CO2 back into the atmosphere. However, the theoretical premise is that this CO2 was just recently taken out of the atmosphere by the growing plants.
o Suppose the biomass is harvested and regrown sustainably (e.g., replanting forests, using agricultural waste, avoiding land-use change that releases more carbon). In that case, the net addition of carbon to the atmosphere over the lifecycle of the fuel can be significantly reduced or theoretically close to zero. It's a continuous cycling of existing atmospheric carbon, rather than adding new carbon from underground.
• Captured Carbon (for E-fuels):
o For e-fuels, the carbon feedstock is actively captured from the atmosphere (Direct Air Capture) or from biogenic sources, such as a bioethanol plant's CO2 emissions.
o This means the carbon used to make the fuel was either directly removed from the atmosphere or was already part of the biogenic cycle.
o When the e-fuel is burned, it releases this captured carbon back into the atmosphere. Again, the idea is that you're not adding new carbon to the atmosphere from geological reserves, but rather circulating carbon that was already there or prevented from being released from a biogenic source. The overall carbon footprint depends on the energy source for the capture and conversion process (must be renewable).
In essence:
You are right that a CO2 molecule from burning coal behaves identically in the atmosphere to a CO2 molecule from burning corn ethanol or an e-fuel. The chemical identity of CO2 and its greenhouse gas properties are invariant.
However, the climate impact differentiates because of the source of that carbon and whether its release represents a net addition to the active carbon cycle that the Earth's natural systems can't rapidly reabsorb. Burning fossil fuels is like continuously pumping new water into a bathtub that already has a blockage; burning sustainable fuels (when done correctly) is more like recycling the water that's already in the tub.
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In fact, water vapour is a potent greenhouse gas (GHG), and its role is much more intensive than that of CO2. When acting in conjunction with CO2, the combination of CO2 and H2O is particularly deadly.
You are absolutely right. Water vapor (H2O) is indeed the most abundant and potent greenhouse gas in Earth's atmosphere, and its role in trapping heat is more significant than that of CO2 on a molecule-for-molecule basis. When acting together, the combination of CO2 and H2O is indeed potent in influencing Earth's temperature.
However, the critical distinction that climate scientists emphasize is the difference in how CO2 and water vapor behave in the atmosphere and their roles as drivers versus feedbacks in the climate system.
Here's a breakdown:
1. Water Vapor as a GHG:
o Water vapor accounts for the most significant portion of Earth's natural greenhouse effect, contributing to roughly 60-70% of the warming that keeps our planet habitable.
o It absorbs and re-emits infrared radiation very effectively across a wide range of wavelengths.
o Its concentration in the atmosphere varies significantly with temperature, location, and time. Warm, humid regions have much more water vapor than cold, dry regions.
2. CO2 as the "Control Knob" or "Forcing" Gas:
o While less abundant than water vapor, CO2 is the primary long-lived, non-condensing greenhouse gas. This is a crucial difference.
o Unlike water vapor, CO2 does not condense out of the atmosphere at normal Earth temperatures. It has a significantly longer atmospheric lifetime, ranging from hundreds to thousands of years.
o Because its concentration is not directly dependent on temperature in the way water vapor is, CO2 acts as a primary control or forcing on Earth's temperature. Changes in CO2 levels directly lead to changes in global temperature.
3. The Water Vapor Feedback Loop (The "Deadly" Combination):
o This is where the "deadly" combination comes into play, as you mentioned. Water vapor is a positive feedback in the climate system.
o How it works:
1. When CO2 (or other long-lived greenhouse gases like methane) is added to the atmosphere, it traps more heat, causing the Earth's average temperature to rise.
2. Warmer air can hold more moisture (water vapor). This is a fundamental physical law.
3. As the air warms due to increased CO2, more water evaporates from oceans, lakes, and land, increasing the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere.
4. This increased water vapor, being a potent greenhouse gas itself, traps even more heat.
5. This further warming leads to even more evaporation and more water vapor, creating a self-reinforcing cycle.
o Scientists estimate that this water vapor feedback roughly doubles the amount of warming that would occur from CO2 alone. So, a 1°C warming from CO2 could become a 2°C warming once the water vapor feedback is accounted for.
Why CO2 is the Primary Concern for Human-Caused Climate Change:
• Humans directly control CO2 emissions: We release vast amounts of CO2 from burning fossil fuels and deforestation. We do not directly control the global atmospheric concentration of water vapor in a way that would alter the climate. Any water vapor we emit (e.g., from power plant cooling towers, combustion) is tiny compared to natural evaporation and cycles out of the atmosphere very quickly through precipitation.
• CO2 sets the baseline temperature; it acts like a thermostat. It determines the base temperature, which then dictates how much water vapor the atmosphere can hold. If you were to remove all CO2 from the atmosphere, the Earth would cool significantly, leading to a massive reduction in atmospheric water vapor and potentially plunging the planet into an ice age.
• Long Atmospheric Lifetime: CO2 persists in the atmosphere for centuries to millennia, leading to long-term warming. Water vapor, by contrast, cycles in and out of the atmosphere in days.
So, while water vapor is quantitatively the most potent greenhouse gas, CO2 is the primary driver of current anthropogenic climate change because its increase initiates and sustains the warming, which is then powerfully amplified by the water vapor feedback loop. This combination creates the significant and concerning warming trend we observe.
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